NewManufacturing Engineer JobotManufacturing EngineerSpringfield, NJ$90,000–$130,000 / yearInformation collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal. For NPI programs, with input from design and test engineers, determine all needed assembly and test fixtures (create fixture list).
NewSr Commissioning Engineer (Data Centers) – Remote JobotSr Commissioning Engineer (Data Centers) – RemoteSecaucus, NJRemote$120,000–$165,000 / yearSuccessful candidates will have experience in Electrical Systems & Equipment with a focus in Data Centers and Mission Critical Facilities; experience and an understanding of Building MEP Systems Design, Construction, and Commissioning of Critical Systems ranging in size, rating, and complexity; Commissioning, Testing and Troubleshooting of Electrical Systems and related controls. Knowledgeable with common mechanical, and controls-related building equipment, including: Engine generators / Uninterruptible power supplies & battery systems / Medium and low-voltage electrical switchgear/ PLC controls and sequences of operations / Automatic transfer switches / Static transfer switches / Power distribution units / Busways.
NewAerospace Electrical Engineer (Entry-Level to Experienced) STS Technical ServicesAerospace Electrical Engineer (Entry-Level to Experienced)Lakehurst, NJThe engineer will work closely with multidisciplinary teams including mechanical engineering, avionics, EMI/EMC specialists, manufacturing personnel, technicians, inspectors, and program leadership to ensure successful aircraft integration efforts. STS Technical Services is partnering with a leading aerospace and defense organization seeking an Electrical Engineer to support the integration of advanced electronic and mission systems on military aircraft platforms.
Mobile Applications Engineer Canfield Scientific, Inc.Mobile Applications EngineerParsippany-Troy Hills, NJ$65,000–$85,000 / yearFull timeWe are looking for a Mobile Applications Engineer to support our mobile app suite of products and develop automation tools to ensure quality control on high end medical mobile applications. The ideal candidate will perform thorough mobile application usability tests and develop a scalable automated test suite to leverage against our offerings.
NewCommissioning Project Engineer (Data Centers) JobotCommissioning Project Engineer (Data Centers)Morristown, NJ$90,000–$160,000 / yearMust be self-motivated and well versed in Data Center projects touching on large building MEP systems design, commissioning, retro-commissioning, energy modeling/analysis and construction for complex buildings. Information collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal.
NewMechanical Commissioning Engineer / Project Manager (Data Centers) JobotMechanical Commissioning Engineer / Project Manager (Data Centers)Secaucus, NJRemote$135,000–$165,000 / yearThe successful candidate must be self-motivated and well versed in Data Center projects touching on large building MEP systems design, commissioning, retro-commissioning, energy modeling/analysis and construction for complex buildings. Information collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal.
Software Engineer (MES) L3Harris TechnologiesSoftware Engineer (MES)Camden, NJ$91,000–$135,000 / yearWith customers’ mission-critical needs always in mind, our employees deliver end-to-end technology solutions connecting the space, air, land, sea and cyber domains in the interest of national security. Support and participate in all phases of the software development life cycle, including requirements analysis, design, implementation, hardware-software integration, and formal test.
NewElectrical Engineer PE JobotElectrical Engineer PEFarmingdale, NJ$135,000–$200,000 / yearSuccessful candidates will have 8-10+ years of experience in Electrical Systems Design with experience Leading electrical design teams on several concurrent projects, with 2-4+ years of experience as Project Manager within an Engineering Consulting or Design/Build Firm. Information collected and processed as part of your Jobot candidate profile, and any job applications, resumes, or other information you choose to submit is subject to Jobot's Privacy Policy, as well as the Jobot California Worker Privacy Notice and Jobot Notice Regarding Automated Employment Decision Tools which are available at jobot.com/legal.
Associate Manager, Software Engineer L3Harris TechnologiesAssociate Manager, Software EngineerCamden, NJ$132,000–$189,000 / yearThis role provides day-to-day technical leadership for a team of software engineers while ensuring delivery of high-quality software aligned with cost, schedule, and technical performance objectives. Provide day-to-day technical and task leadership for a team of software engineers, ensuring delivery of high-quality software on cost, schedule, and technical performance.
Senior Software Engineer SMES L3Harris TechnologiesSenior Software Engineer SMESCamden, NJ$86,000–$139,000 / yearPlease click here for the E-Verify Poster in English or Spanish . Responsibilities include leading a software development team, analyzing requirements and the translation of requirements into working and maintainable solutions, planning the development, assigning budgets and tasks, tracking teams’ status, measuring teams work performed utilizing Earned Value Management System (EVMS) techniques and enforcing process across the entire Software Development Life Cycle (SDLC).
NewSoftware Development Engineer JobotSoftware Development EngineerAvalon, NJ$65–$80 / hourDevelopers at this level are building greater independence, taking ownership of small to medium-sized work items, and strengthening their core engineering skills across multiple application layers, including user interfaces, services, APIs, and data. Our teams include professionals across software engineering, product development, clinical informatics, research, and healthcare technology who share a commitment to reducing complexity and improving outcomes for patients and providers.
Sr. Specialist Project Engineer L3Harris TechnologiesSr. Specialist Project EngineerCamden, NJ$110,000–$200,000 / yearBachelor's degree in related Engineering/Science field and a minimum of 6 years of prior related experience,Or, master’s degree in progress in related Engineering/Science field and a minimum of 4 years of prior related experience, Or, in lieu of a degree, a minimum of 10 years of prior related technical and project management experience. Manage day-to-day technical aspects of the project, including cross-functional decision making, task/schedule management, issue resolution/escalation, communication, requirements management, and risk management activities.
Senior Specialist, Project Engineer L3Harris TechnologiesSenior Specialist, Project EngineerCamden, NJ$125,000–$185,000 / yearExperience and knowledge in developing, proposing, managing, implementing, testing products and system solutions in Command and Control, Communications Systems, Risk management framework and/or Intelligence, Surveillance & Reconnaissance (ISR) systems including:Radio Communication Systems. With customers’ mission-critical needs always in mind, our employees deliver end-to-end technology solutions connecting the space, air, land, sea and cyber domains in the interest of national security.
Senior Embedded Software Engineer - SMES Level L3Harris TechnologiesSenior Embedded Software Engineer - SMES LevelCamden, NJ$105,000–$151,000 / yearWith customers’ mission-critical needs always in mind, our employees deliver end-to-end technology solutions connecting the space, air, land, sea and cyber domains in the interest of national security. Support and participate in all phases of the software development life cycle, including requirements analysis, design, implementation, hardware-software integration, and formal test.
Specialist, Quality Engineer (Program Quality) L3Harris TechnologiesSpecialist, Quality Engineer (Program Quality)Camden, NJ$84,000–$135,000 / yearThis role serves as the program quality focal point responsible for ensuring product and process compliance, managing nonconformance resolution, driving root cause and corrective action activities, and partnering cross-functionally to deliver high-reliability products to naval and defense customers. With customers’ mission-critical needs always in mind, our employees deliver end-to-end technology solutions connecting the space, air, land, sea and cyber domains in the interest of national security.
(DoD SkillBridge), Sr. Specialist, Systems Engineer L3Harris Technologies(DoD SkillBridge), Sr. Specialist, Systems EngineerCamden, NJL3Harris Technologies – Integrated C5 Systems (IC5S) is a recognized global leader in the design, development and production of secure communication systems and products supporting mission-critical space, ground, air and naval operations. S/he will be responsible for applying security and cryptography expertise throughout the Systems Engineering process to develop and successfully certify National Security systems on time, within the allotted budget, and with low residual risk.
Systems Engineer (Sr. Member Engineering Staff) L3Harris TechnologiesSystems Engineer (Sr. Member Engineering Staff)Camden, NJDevelops Concepts of Operations (CONOPS), decomposing and synthesizing security requirements, verifying security features, supporting security architecture development and analysis, and assisting with design and security test planning and execution. L3Harris Technologies – Surface and C5 Systems is a recognized global leader in the design, development, and production of secure communication systems and products supporting mission-critical space, ground, air, and naval operations.
Technical Lead Member Engineering Staff - Systems Security Engineer L3Harris TechnologiesTechnical Lead Member Engineering Staff - Systems Security EngineerCamden, NJ$104,500–$193,500 / yearDevelops Concepts of Operations (CONOPS), decomposing and synthesizing security requirements, verifying security features, supporting security architecture development and analysis, and assisting with design and security test planning and execution. The ideal candidate possesses Systems Engineering experience combined with Information Assurance, Security, and Cryptography expertise, with demonstrated success contributing to NSA-approved products considered highly desirable.
Senior Electrical Engineer P Chappel AssociatesSenior Electrical EngineerWoodcliff Lake, NJ$140,000–$200,000 / yearFull timeThe successful candidate will play an important role in the design and development of advanced electronic systems while contributing to the growth and technical excellence of the engineering organization. An outstanding technology company in Northern New Jersey is seeking a Senior Electrical Engineer to join its growing engineering team.
NewData Engineer ECLAROData EngineerRutherford, NJPosition Overview: Will be responsible for Development and Testing of Data Integration Workflows (ETL Packages, Stored Procedures, UDF, Ad Hoc-Queries), Test Plans and Test Cases using Microsoft Technologies such as SSIS, SSAS and SQL Server Database, as well as company-wide Document Management. Leadership (if applicable): Motivates employees to exercise their talents to the fullest and holds them accountable for their best efforts; provides support to develop potential skills for improved individual growth and trains and empowers subordinates effectively.
Sr. Member Engineering Staff (Systems Engineer) L3Harris TechnologiesSr. Member Engineering Staff (Systems Engineer)Camden, NJ$90,500–$140,500 / yearExperience with design, operation, and maintenance of military communications and information systems, including experience with shipboard communication systems such as satellite communications, radios and antennas, as well as telephony systems and data networks. Full Systems Engineering Life Cycle experience from baseline concept definition, System Design Review (SDR), through the Preliminary Design Review (PDR), and Critical Design Review (CDR) as well as System Integration and Engineering Test (SEIT).
Senior Specialist, Manufacturing Engineer L3Harris TechnologiesSenior Specialist, Manufacturing EngineerCamden, NJ$84,500–$157,500 / yearCreates and maintains manufacturing documentation including but not limited to: work instructions, production routings, flow charts, time and motion studies, capacity and utilization studies, cycle time analysis, and line balancing. This position is responsible for designing and developing manufacturing methods, processes, procedures, operational sequences and production layouts for the manufacture and testing of power switchboards, circuit breakers and power converters for the NAVY.
NewEngineer I, Controls Medical Manufacturing Technologies LLCEngineer I, ControlsPennsauken Township, NJ$105,568–$134,599 / yearDesign & Development: Create electrical and electromechanical systems, including servo motors, motion controls, and high-precision feedback devices for Glebar and Tridex precision machinery. Specializing in automation, machine design, material handling, and custom tooling, we build precision systems that power some of the world’s most demanding manufacturing environments.
SRE Engineer Pinnacle Technical ResourcesSRE EngineerJersey City,, New Jersey$60–$65 / hourContractorWorking proficiency in a portion of software engineering disciplines and demonstrates understanding of overall software skills including business analysis, development, testing, deployment, maintenance and improvement of software. Familiarity with observability practices such as white and black box monitoring, service level objective alerting, and telemetry collection using tools like Grafana, Dynatrace, Prometheus, Datadog and Splunk.
Data Engineer -601/602 Pinnacle Technical ResourcesData Engineer -601/602Jersey City,, New Jersey$65–$70 / hourContractorThe specific compensation for this position will be determined by a number of factors, including the scope, complexity and location of the role as well as the cost of labor in the market; the skills, education, training, credentials and experience of the candidate; and other conditions of employment. You will develop, test, and maintain essential data pipelines and architectures across diverse technical areas, supporting various business functions to achieve organizational objectives.
NewSenior Mainframe Engineer Kforce Inc.Senior Mainframe EngineerJersey City, NJ$59–$69Champion production stability by proactively monitoring, diagnosing, and resolving system issues, driving root cause analysis, and ensuring 24/7 reliability for missioncritical brokerage and tax processing workloads. Bachelor's degree in Computer Science Engineering, or related field with 8+ years of experience, or a Master's degree with 6+ years of experience (advanced experience preferred).
Principal Full Stack Engineer - VP BarclaysPrincipal Full Stack Engineer - VPWhippany, NJValidated experience designing and developing Enterprise driven architectures using Kafka, AWS SNS/SQS, or equivalent messaging platforms for high‑throughput, low‑latency systems. This VP‑level role is a cornerstone of Barclays’ strategic Best Egg initiative, responsible for driving the design and delivery of enterprise‑scale, cloud‑native platforms that fuel consumer‑lending growth.
Vice President - Senior Data Engineer BarclaysVice President - Senior Data EngineerWhippany, NJTo be successful as a Vice President - Senior Data Engineer, you should have: Considerable Python experience for data engineering and service development, leveraging frameworks and libraries such as FastAPI, PySpark, Pydantic, and asyncio. In this role, you will contribute to building a greenfield data and intelligence platform for Equities, playing a key role in defining the architecture, selecting tooling, and setting the strategic direction of a modern data ecosystem.
Site Reliability Engineer -VP BarclaysSite Reliability Engineer -VPWhippany, NJYou will act as a subject‑matter specialist for SRE practices, partnering with infrastructure and engineering teams to embed reliability into platforms across cloud, on-prem, compute, storage, networking, and databases. Containers and orchestration (Docker, Kubernetes); Networking (TCP/IP, DNS, HTTP, SFTP) and relational databases; and monitoring and observability tools (Geneos ITRS, Prometheus, Grafana, APM, Observe).
Full Stack Engineer Kforce Inc.Full Stack EngineerJersey City, NJ$54–$62Employee pay is based on factors like relevant education, qualifications, certifications, experience, skills, seniority, location, performance, union contract and business needs. By clicking “Apply Today” you agree to receive calls, AI-generated calls, text messages or emails from Kforce and its affiliates, and service providers.
Process Development Engineer Michael Page USAProcess Development EngineerMoorestown, NJ$130,000–$150,000 / yearFull timeWith continued investment, substantial venture backing, and ongoing expansion of its technology platform, the organization remains at the forefront of advancing next‑generation treatment solutions for chronic heart failure. You will play a critical role in the development, optimization, and lifecycle management of implantable medical devices designed to improve outcomes for patients with chronic heart failure.
NewSenior QA Automation Engineer (SDET) BC ForwardSenior QA Automation Engineer (SDET)Pennington, NJ$60–$60.40 / hourFull timeThe ideal candidate will have strong experience in test automation, API automation, CI/CD integration, and Agile SDLC and a proven ability to design and execute manual and automated tests that meet functional, non-functional, and compliance requirements while driving high-quality releases. With delivery centers and offices across North America and India, we take pride in building long-term relationships and delivering excellence through innovation, collaboration, and integrity.
Senior C++/C# Engineer BC ForwardSenior C++/C# EngineerJersey City, NJ$69–$69.99 / hourFull timeThe ideal candidate will have strong experience in electronic trading platforms, low-latency systems, and integration across Unix and Windows environments and a proven ability to support production trading platforms, collaborate with traders, and validate releases through application testing. With delivery centers and offices across North America and India, we take pride in building long-term relationships and delivering excellence through innovation, collaboration, and integrity.
Reliability Engineer II, Cement Plant AmrizeReliability Engineer II, Cement PlantBrookdale, SCEmployees that are required to wear respirators must be clean shaven where the respirator seal meets the face in order to pass the qualitative and quantitative fit tests. Management of the preventative/predictive maintenance programs (Inspection, Vibration, Oil Analysis, NDT, thermography, etc.) to ensure optimum equipment availability.
Electrical Test Engineer Impulse Dynamics Germany GmbHElectrical Test EngineerMarlton, NJ$70,000–$85,000 / yearAssist product development engineers in design and prototyping of electronic devices (may include schematic capture, PCB layout, component specification and procurement, assembly and board bring-up). Impulse Dynamics (USA), Inc. is a fast-growing medical device company that has pioneered a new form of therapy for heart failure called Cardiac Contractility Modulation, or CCM TM, which is delivered by the company's Optimizer Smart System.
Electrical Test Engineer Impulse DynamicsElectrical Test EngineerNew JerseyAssist product development engineers in design and prototyping of electronic devices (may include schematic capture, PCB layout, component specification and procurement, assembly and board bring-up). Impulse Dynamics (USA), Inc. is a fast-growing medical device company that has pioneered a new form of therapy for heart failure called Cardiac Contractility Modulation, or CCM TM , which is delivered by the company’s Optimizer ® Smart System.
Test Engineer - Analog, ATE SRI InternationalTest Engineer - Analog, ATEPrinceton, New Jersey$79,533–$105,381 / yearFull timeMaintain and improve existing methods for the testing and measurement of microcircuits using ATE and related equipment; interact directly with the technical staff of test equipment suppliers to address and resolve equipment or software related issues that may arise. Working experience with automated, computer-controlled measurement systems (ATE) is desired; if direct ATE experience is lacking, must have demonstrated ability in relevant programming languages (i.e. C, C++, LabView, etc).
Test Engineer Analog, ATE SRI InternationalTest Engineer Analog, ATEPrinceton, NJ$79,533–$105,381 / yearMaintain and improve existing methods for the testing and measurement of microcircuits using ATE and related equipment; interact directly with the technical staff of test equipment suppliers to address and resolve equipment or software related issues that may arise. Working experience with automated, computer-controlled measurement systems (ATE) is desired; if direct ATE experience is lacking, must have demonstrated ability in relevant programming languages (i.e. C, C++, LabView, etc).
Electrical Engineer I, Manufacturing Test BAE SystemsElectrical Engineer I, Manufacturing TestWayne, NJ$65,400–$111,240 / yearPlease note that pursuant to a government contract, this specific position requires US citizenship status and the ability to obtain a DoW Secret Clearance **Required Education, Experience, & Skills** + Bachelor's degree in Electrical Engineering or Computer Engineering + Experience troubleshooting RF circuit boards up to and beyond 1GHz utlizing various circuit analysis tools such as oscilloscopes, network analyzers and spectrum analyzers + Ability to work as part of a team while also completing independent assignments + Ability to obtain a secret clearance + Strong problem solving ability + Demonstrated time management and organization skills + Commitment to excellence and ethical performance required to work on defense contracts **Preferred Education, Experience, & Skills** A very strong candidate would have 1 years of work experience in an electronics test environment troubleshooting RF circuit card assemblies Understanding of both digital and RF circuits. Tasks require the ability to isolate and resolve product related issues in both hardware, software and process related problems, validate test measurement accuracy, characterize the performance of products under test, conduct data analysis and generate documents that report our findings.
Sr Embedded Software Test Engineer Johnson & JohnsonSr Embedded Software Test EngineerCherry Hill, New JerseyAgility Jumps, Analytical Reasoning, Coaching, Collaboration, Critical Thinking, Model-Based Systems Engineering (MBSE), Product Design, Report Writing, Requirements Analysis, Research and Development, SAP Product Lifecycle Management, Scripting Languages, Software Architectures, Software Development Management, Software Engineering Practices, Software Quality Assurance (SQA), Systems Development Lifecycle (SDLC), Technologically Savvy M.S. in computer science, math, computer engineering, electrical engineering or an engineering field or equivalent work experience; 4+ years of manual and automated testing experience on an embedded platform with real-time operating system (micro-controller, microprocessor).
NewPr Embedded Software Test Engineer Johnson & JohnsonPr Embedded Software Test EngineerCherry Hill, New JerseyCoaching, Critical Thinking, Innovation, Model-Based Systems Engineering (MBSE), Organizing, Project Management, Report Writing, Requirements Analysis, Research and Development, Researching, SAP Product Lifecycle Management, Scripting Languages, Software Acquisitions, Software Development Management, Software Engineering Practices, Software Quality Assurance (SQA), Systems Development Lifecycle (SDLC), Technologically Savvy, Training People M.S. in computer science, math, computer engineering, electrical engineering or an engineering field or equivalent work experience; 6+ years of manual and automated testing experience on an embedded platform with real-time operating system (micro-controller, microprocessor).
Specialist, Systems Integration & Test Engineer L3Harris Technologies IncSpecialist, Systems Integration & Test EngineerClifton, NJ$88,500–$164,500 / yearThe ideal candidate is a strong technical contributor who can work across multiple engineering disciplines, solve complex problems through detailed analysis and investigation, and help improve system and test processes to enhance overall program execution. This role includes responsibility for troubleshooting test failures, developing test procedures, supporting implementation and checkout of special test equipment (STE), test sets, and test software, and evaluating analysis tools needed for verification.
Software Engineer III (Automated Test Equipment) Marotta Controls, Inc.Software Engineer III (Automated Test Equipment)Parsippany, NJ$110,000–$123,000 / yearYour employment, both initially and continually thereafter, is conditioned on production of such proof of citizenship and/or any export license that may be required to comply with any and all applicable laws, regulations, or executive orders, or required by Federal, State, or local government contracts. Position Summary: Marotta Controls is seeking a Software Engineer to support the development of Automated Test Equipment (ATE) for the Power and Control Actuation Systems (PAS) business unit.
Senior Test Engineer - Boonton, NJ Hubbell IncSenior Test Engineer - Boonton, NJNJThe individual is capable of analyzing electronic and mechanical designs for Manufacturing testability, designing test fixtures, developing test procedures, applying software based testing solutions, and developing diagnostics in an ISO9001 environment. Hubbell Utility Solutions (HUS) enable the grid to conduct, communicate and control energy across utility applications and Hubbell Electrical Solutions (HES) are essential to managing power across a wide range of industries and applications.
Senior Systems Test Engineer (Hybrid) BAE SystemsSenior Systems Test Engineer (Hybrid)Wayne, NJ$105,827–$179,906 / yearRequired Education, Experience, & Skills** + Developing System level documentation for test requirements, test design, and operating procedures for acceptance test and environmental stress screening applications + Architecting, designing, analyzing designs for analog, digital, RF and hybrid modules, board level, systems and subsystems using vendor supplied and custom measurement equipment + Evaluating the test performance to required specifications and you will be integrating and testing in the selected target test environments for future use by the production organization. The Systems Test Engineer should have a strong background in Electrical or Systems Engineering, and possess a demonstrated ability in designing, developing, and deploying complex systems using LabVIEW and TestStand test applications, Commercial Instrumentation for testing Military Comms, Navigation, and Electronic Warfare equipment.
Test Engineer XP Power LtdTest EngineerNJThe Test Engineer will work directly with other Electrical, Mechanical, and Manufacturing Engineers to facilitate various activities to implement automated data acquisition, find defects earlier in the process, improve repeatability, and become the subject matter expert on all test requirements related to XP Power's HVHP products. The core responsibility of the Test Engineer is to own the implementation, coordination, and documentation of test fixtures, processes, and requirements in partnership with the HVHP design team to support expanding our production capacity and capabilities to meet the needs of our customers.
Special Test Equipment Test Methods Engineer - Early/Mid-Career Lockheed Martin CorpSpecial Test Equipment Test Methods Engineer - Early/Mid-CareerMoorestown, NJ$65,934–$142,072 / yearBasic Qualifications: Candidate should have experience/familiarity with RF, Digital and Analog measurement / troubleshooting techniques, digital signal probing, electrical schematic development and analysis. Work Schedules: Lockheed Martin supports a variety of alternate work schedules that provide additional flexibility to our employees.
R&D Test and Design Validation Electrical Engineer Keysight Technologies IncR&D Test and Design Validation Electrical EngineerNJThis role owns the full lifecycle of test set development: defining test concepts, architecting the measurement approach, selecting and integrating instruments/fixtures, writing and maintaining test code, and generating the documentation required to support production and quality systems. Overview Keysight Technologies, the worlds largest test and measurement equipment manufacturer, has an outstanding research and development full-time position available for an electrical engineer or computer engineer to work in Keysights Budd Lake, NJ facility.
Test Engineer QCiTest EngineerHoboken, New JerseyThe successful candidate will be responsible for the troubleshooting and stabilization of critical production test systems, the design and implementation of test stations, and the transfer of NPI/development test methods to manufacturing. Minimum of a Bachelor’s Degree in a relevant subject such as computer science, software engineering, electrical engineering, physics, mathematics, electronics or equivalent experience.