20 years of full-time professional project and construction management experience, with 10 of those years managing large programs with projects over $50 million each (not cumulative), 5 years in educational facility construction, public works, or large commercial projects (projects outside California count), and a degree in architecture, engineering, or construction management. - 25 years of full-time professional project and construction management experience, with 20 of those years managing large programs with projects over $50 million each (not cumulative), and the same 5 years in educational facility construction, public works, or large commercial projects.